Had some fun again today out on the lake, flat calm and zero current…the conditions called for heading back out once again to see what kind of data we could pull on additional tests with copper depths, and pulling some depth data on wire divers.
The big question in our minds coming out of the first round of copper testing done with a spoon, was what would happen when we pulled a flasher around. We went with the old standby 8″ Dreamweaver Spin Doctor first on the 300′ copper…no change in depth. We upped the ante next and threw out an 11″ Dreamweaver Paddle and we had some action. The 300′ 45lb Copper rig rose to a steady running depth of 48′ down with the 11″ paddle pulled behind it. Very interesting, but not surprising to us.
With that out of the way, we started to work on the wire divers. Probably of more interest to us personally than the copper, is where exactly are our wire divers? Because we have “control” over incremental changes in “line out” on wire compared to just throwing a couple hundred feet of copper in the water, we were VERY interested to see where we have been getting all of our action from the past decade since moving over to wire.
We are standard divers on 3 for the “high” divers and deeper divers on 1.5 for the “low” divers on our boats…so that is what we went with. 2.5 gps speed and a Stinger Stingray started off the testing.
Very smooth and consistent readings all the way down on the low diver, and then again on the high diver. We were really surprised to see how small of change in running depth 10′ of line makes, but again, it is only ten feet of line.
Of course, we found out that our gear is MUCH higher than we thought it was (for our “high” divers anyway), but to us it does not matter, we still catch fish on our diver sets and have no intention of changing them now that we know how deep they really are.
10″ Dreamweaver Spin doctor went out on the low diver after we completed the spoon cycle, and ran tightly within a 2-3′ margin of the spoon all the way out to 300′ of wire. We expected more lift, but did not get it.
We did not have time for paddle testing on the divers, but if it’s anything like what happened to the coppers then we can expect quite a difference…or maybe not.
We do know one thing for sure, current will play an absolutely monster role in diver depths, and we can state this with a very high degree of confidence. Just this past monday (Memorial Day) we were in 88 feet of water dragging our “high” divers (standard divers) on the bottom with approx 275 of wire out. Based upon the “no current” chart below, we see that the attained depth for that amount of wire was only 69′, so what gives?
We would also note that our deeper divers were almost spot on this past monday in relation to this chart, maybe just a couple of feet short, when trolling into the current.
We have known for years by fishing our gear on the bottom for trout, both riggers and divers, that depending on the direction of travel and orientation in the current, you could experience significant changes in running depths. At least for divers and riggers. You can be trolling one direction with your gear out X feet, and then turn around and have to let out 100 more feet of wire just to touch bottom again.
To our example of this past Monday, we were trolling into the current at 2.6 mph and ticking bottom with our high diver out approx 275′. We did not swing around and go the opposite direction that time, but had we done so, we probably would have been looking at 350+ to get the same bottom depth.
We believe wire divers will probably have the most variability in running depths than any other gear, in relation to the current, as compared to copper or leadcore. So, these numbers below are just a reference with no current influence.
We also believe that because of the nature of wire divers and how effected they are by currents, that once they are deployed “into” the underwater current band, they will tend to stay in it, regardless of how much more line is let out. Time will tell with this theory.
30lb Blood Run Wire 2.5 gps | Mag 1.5 Depth | Standard 3 Depth |
Line Out | ||
50 | 30′ | 21′ |
60 | 35′ | 26′ |
80 | 40′ | 28′ |
90 | 45′ | 31′ |
100 | 50′ | 34′ |
110 | 53′ | 36′ |
120 | 56′ | 39′ |
130 | 60′ | 42′ |
140 | 63′ | 45′ |
150 | 66′ | 48′ |
160 | 69′ | 51′ |
170 | 72′ | 53′ |
180 | 74′ | 56′ |
190 | 78′ | 56′ |
200 | 81′ | 59′ |
210 | 81′ | 61′ |
220 | 83′ | 63′ |
230 | 86′ | 64′ |
240 | 89′ | 67′ |
250 | 93′ | 67′ |
260 | 95′ | 69′ |
270 | 97′ | 69′ |
280 | 99′ | 71′ |
290 | 101′ | 71′ |
300 | 105′ | 73′ |
310 | 75′ | |
320 | 77′ |